BP Oil Spill Suggestion Box
May 31, 2010 – British Petroleum (BP) has finally opened a telephone hotline to take oil spill suggestions from the public. Whether the suggestions will be seriously considered by BP remains to be seen, but I am happy to report that I had a satisfactory experience when I checked out the Oil Spill Suggestion Hotline. When I called (281)-366-5511, the phone was actually answered by a live person (in my case, after only 2 rings) who was polite and actually seemed to be putting my information into a computer. The operator took my name, city and state of residence, zip code, telephone number, and email address. She then asked for my suggestion, and requested that I speak slowly so she could write it all down. In my case, it was easy to do because I was able to tell her that there were between 300-400 suggestions already written down here at BPOilNews.com. She asked me to repeat the web address twice, and thanked me for the information. I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised by the way the call was handled. I’m not ready to announce that BP is going to using public suggestions, because it may all be a PR ploy, but I am willing to suggest that anyone who has a good suggestion should call the hotline in addition to posting it here. The phone number for the BP Oil Spill Suggestion Hotline is (281)-366-5511.
Oil Spill Claims Update
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BP is removing dead animal carcasses in the middle of the night in order to keep them out of the hands of scientists and out of view of the public. Don’t think this isn’t public knowledge. We’ve also heard reports of BP chopping off the heads of birds to prevent their full autopsy.
If any of these allegations are true, as the public believes they are, then BP is going to have a lot to answer for. Tampering with the evidence of a crimes, especially including removing the dead and chopping off the heads of dead birds, is a HIGH CRIME, punishable with prison terms.
Why is BP restricting access to the media? Because they’re hiding dead animals and headless birds carcasses?
This will be a little contreversial, but how about taking each of the exceutives of the BP board and all of the other companies that where responsible for creating and maintaining each component of the well, and placing these people ever so gently one on top of the other, into the well to stop the leak… Perhaps future board members will think twice before cost cutting, on saftey measures. I mean please do remember that 11 people have lost their lives due to their overall negligence and thousands upon thousands have lost and continue to loose their enjoyment and livelyhood of the environment that BP has ruined. Let me know what you think……. I say stacks on to BP!
Great idea- I agree!
My suggestion is to cover the gushing leak with a “big tent” made of impermeable synthetic material, equipped with numerous nozzles that, when kept open, allow the oil to flow right through it. Anchor the “net” onto the ocean floor, so that it billows out over the leaking oil. Then gradually screw a hose onto each nozzle to siphon off the oily water from the leak. Eventually, you will have contained all the leaking oil to the area under the “big tent.”
This solution may not be perfect. It certainly does not stop the leak. But it provides a way to keep the spill from expanding so fast over hundreds of square miles, contaminating water life and coastal areas and destroying habitat, ecosystems and protective barrier lands.
To Fred Fiske
Regards. I started a search to find a hot line to send a solution regarding h
the oil leak/ spill disaster…and and came across this site..and was shocked (yet extremely happy) to read your comment. The reason of my “shock” is that you stated exactly what i was thinking and about to suggest. Your solution is even more refined. I think it is the only immediate solution to at least “contain” the problem, while they figure out how to stop the leak permanently.
I hope you can reach someone to listen and start implementing it immediately.
Now i have a request to you, and that is to be able to communicate with you regarding another “problem” i’m trying to resolve, that is also related to saving lives and helping out making the seas and oceans a safer place for boaters. The reason i am making this request is that i believe you have an inventive mind..and maybe be interested in joining me with my quest/ vision. My email is zmfmd@yahoo.com.
or us a cone like shape of the same material to channel it to a narrow area on the surface where it could be isolated inside booms and sucked up by ships surrounding it. It doesn’t even need to be anchored all the way to the surface and it’s pressure neutral. But last I checked, an Oil insider said that this was very likely to be their next move. They were running models. They may not have material that would be easy to produce on that scale that can also handle temperatures that are that cold. I’d really prefer for BP to have an e-mail where we can send this stuff though. It’d make life a lot easier. I can’t understand half of the shit I say on a recording – especially it it’s a sophisticated concept like this. But if you give me time to write it, I know I can make it clear. What the hell is a phone line good for. Letting people vent?
Bring in a drill ship with 17000’ of 5” drill pipe in derrick. Rig up 500’ of drill pipe below a 7” retrievable test treat packer. Run drill pipe to the mud line. Pull off the top cap and open the BOP’s to allow drill pipe to be guided into the BOP. Guide the drill pipe into the well and run the tool to 16,500 feet and set RTTS inside 7” casing. Rig up e-line, run in hole to 17,300’, perforate 7” casing with 100’ of charges. Drop e-line down below perforations and hook up frac boats to pump 20.0 ppg mud into annuals to kill oil/gas flow. When kill is achieved follow with 50 bbls of weighted spacer, 500 bbls cement slurry containing gas control agents. Displace with 12,000’ of mud and finish with last 5,200’ with sea water to hold cement in place.
Basically send down tubes in pieces and start stacking them one by one to reach as high as they want. Eventually put over the top a fitting that allows them to pump the oil wherever they want.
Hey,
What about oxygen? People are claiming that all the oil eating microbes in the ocean are going to consume all the oxygen and starve all the other lifeforms in the water. How about pumping oxygen into the water in order to help that situation? It couldn’t hurt
that’s a lot harder than you would think. First, you’d have to break the oxygen molecules down to, well, molecules. otherwise, they’ll just float back up. Secondly, you can’t do it so that they’re close enough to bump into each other and react. If they join up, again, they’ll float right back up. Remember, the oxygen source in the ocean is mainly algea, and it comes off one molecule at a time. And to do that on a mass scale is impossible. You’re talking about creating and implementing several thousand multi million dollar machines in a the next 6 months for that to make a marginal difference. And that’s assuming it’s impossible. Maybe only mother nature can do it on that scale anyways. And even still, you’ve got the methane and some other gases. as it’s absorbed in the smaller fist, it will grown in concentration towards the larger fish still, so we’re looking at the bigger the fish, the more likely this is gonna kill them. And in some areas, the oxygen may reduce to nada and really wipe out everything. This shit is bad. People don’t even realize. If you’re in the fishing industry, I’m keeping my fingers crossed you get your cut of the money quick and invest it towards a new career and life path. We need to remember with each additional part per million, the percentage of each species that will die will increase at an exponential rate. And lets not forget that 98% of Shell fish are from the estuaries that are being destroyed. And if a hurricane pushes this ashore the destruction will only be even more absolute. It’s breaking my heart…
Maybe this is just me, but I think the government needs needs to lay off BP. If we keep asking for more money, they’re gonna file for bankruptcy, the claimants won’t see money for years, and we’re all effed. My proposal, and please let me know what ya’ll think. I’ve been following the litigation for my job over the last few months, especially understanding the damages. But my proposal, is to (and here’s how the Obama Administration can ACTUALLY HELP) let them off the hook completely in exchange for an up front $40 billion dollar payment, that will be financed as a loan via the US government, that will have an interest rate equal to the CPI. We threw money around in the financial industry like it was nothing, and this would be giving it to someone that we know can repay. No one benefits if BP goes under. more than 5 huge CSO’s have an over 3% exposure to the companies involved in the spill. Millions of people around the globe need BP’s dividends and Bonds to be paying out for their retirement. I mean we’re talking about really screwing the world economy if we push them under. Plus, the fishing industry is dead and done for a while. There’s permanent damage. The people in those areas need the money now. Ideally, they could use it to finance a new job/career path. If they’re getting this slowly over years, they’ll never have the chance to change the LA, MI, AL, and northwest FL infrastructures. It’ll leave them with an empty bag and lost livestyles without the ability to start over. To me it makes perfect sence – this is a number BP can easily afford to finance. This is the least burdensome scenario I can imagine for the US. And it’s absolutely the best for the people who need it. I’d like to hear what ya’ll think.
First, BP and the Government need to come to grips with the fact that the top priority is to cap the well and not trying to figure a way to extract the rest of the oil. Once, the well is under control then the interested parties can come up with an extraction plan.
Second, this situation is similar to the crisis at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in 1986. A crisis of catastrophic magnitude with no set protocol to implement. As such, the resolution to this oil spill may lie in the knowledge so richly bought at Chernobyl.
Third, Take a large amount of sand and mix it with several control elements, such as Boron. Then insert a charge to ignite the well, either before you place the sand and control elements on the well or after. The heat from the fire will heat up the sand mixture until it boils like a viscus at a county fair.
When the fire cools and the temperature of the sand mixture lowers, it will harden and seal the spill. This will give BP the window of time needed to build the cement sarcophagus over the top of the well. Ultimately, two layers of concealment, hardened sand mixture and cement cap, will work better than simply one.
BP was one the right track but the wrong train when they attempted to use mud to plug the hole, long enough to put the cement cap over it. The sand mixture will provide the right density in a changing array of compositions necessary to contain the oil. If such a mixture can contain a burning nuclear power plant, as it did at Chernobyl, then I am sure it can handle oil.
I have confidence that all those really smart guys over at BP have realized that the yield curve is plummeting on this situation, thereby reaching the point where failure to contain will be cataclysmic for their profits, the global economy, the ecosystem and morale.
John D. is turning over in his grave!
and you can’t blow up anything around there. it would likely open the damn thing up. You’re forgetting about hydrocarbons – yeah one of those gets pushed up through the flow and expands as it rises, you’re looking at a pretty big explosion. and do you realize how much pressure and the tempereature it is down there? First, if you can get something to blow up down there, then you’ve got something really hardcore. Second, blowing something up like that is like putting a stick of dynamite on top of a thin layer of rock concealing some cavity of liquid, and then placing thousand pound steal plate on top of it and then blow it up. What do you think’s gonna give? the rock or the steel? At that point the weight of over a mile of water is gonna be like the steel.
Using problem to solve the problem…..
It is told/informed by BP that methane hydrates were formed during capping the well and they blocked the flow. These methane hydrates are formed (as told by the source) by reaction of cold water with methane under high pressure……Therefore it can be persumed that if we inject cold water into the well it will form hydrates within the pipe and block the flow as it has happened during the failed caping process…………….This suggestion is based on assumptions, and technical data is not avaiable to support the hypothesis
negative ghost rider. they are Methane Hydrates. They’re actually pretty rare, and an incredible energy source, though very unstable. But you can’t replicate them. Any water you put down there won’t be able to freeze, even if it’s fresh, and we assume the natural power of diffusion doesn’t make it any different from salt water in a few seconds, because the pressure won’t allow the crystalline structure of ice – it requires that H20 molecules to expand. There’s nothing you can do to plug it but drill another hole. They need to channel and contain it.
Kind of off the wall but might help. Construct a large diameter ( 40 foot ?) column of heavy guage vinyl covered material as is used for building covers. Make it in sections that would attach to the other.Each section would bolt to the other by collars. The bottom section would need to be secured to the sea bed. Thrusters would be needed along the column to keep it stabilized. At the surface a permanent stablized containment vessel would collect the oil and vent off the gas. This would keep the oil contained on it’s way to the surface. This is only a short term fix. Pressurs inside and outside the column should be the same. The volicty of the oil and gas on its way to the surface may be a problem but I think it could be overcome.
Brilliant – that was my idea as well. I heard they were running models on this, but I don’t know what the hold up is. Maybe the material can’t handle the temperature, and a mass produced substitute can’t be found or created in time… Otherwise I say WTF
Ok. Since we know it’s not gonna stop why not corral the oil at least from bottom to top netting. Just like holding fish in tuna fish farming. Oil will stay in when in clogs using super fine netting(water pass not oil). BP will save extra billions in damages and can skim/extract easier for less oil loss revenue. Work smarter not harder.
I have sketches of how it would work.
HAS ANYONE THOUGHT OF IMPLODING THE WELL SAY ABOUT 800 FEET DOWN? TODAY I SAW WHERE THE RELIEF WELL IS OVER 1300 FEET – WHY COULDN’T A CHARGE BE PLACED ABOUT 200-300 BELOW THE EARTH SURFACE AND IMPLODE II IN ON ITSELF? THAT SHOULD STOP EVERYTHING.
I know someone who is a minnner. who as a great idea, and your company wouldn’t really have too destroy the orginal pipes. But the person would like to in touch with someone before your company pour down ths cerment.
Thank you
A friend of mine suggested creating a large heavy cone shaped device that would be placed in the pipe with the pointed end inserted into the
pipe. The cone should probably be covered in something that would
seal the irregular edges and be heavy enough to overcome the oil
pressure.
What if they took a submarine and placed it on top of the leak?
First, Golf balls, then trying to recap it with something that will just barely fit in, given the fact that this is pressurized oil coming out of the damage pipe is impossible. If BP cannot recap it from the outer part of the pipe, why not use a cone shape design with rubberized material around it to plug it. If the U.S can built a 60 ton tank, so why can’t we built a 60 tons + cone shape object to plug it and there is no way the pressurized oil will push it out of the way because it’s just like an external aerodynamics when it goes in. No perfect realignment needed. BP can even have the option of placing a hollow opening in the middle of the cone shape plug to attach a new pipe and control valve to close or open it to release oil pressure or oil. Just a suggestion but I do believe that it will work or at least contain the major oil flow.
first thing this oil spill presher can blow a big piece of iron off. i say make a long tube and suck all the oil in to a big tank . so who ever said to put a piece of iron on it . think again.
June 22, 2010
The pipe size is about two feet wide. Send a six foot ‘torpido’ down the tube with expansion rims (like on piston rings).
The rings are designed to grip when oil pressure pushes up traping the torpido in the pipe. In addition to the rings their would be explosive
arms that are forced out (teeth on end of arms) to grip into the pipe shuting off oil flow and allowing the pipe to be capped.
After the first week when BP could not stop the leak the military shoould have taken over. The military should take over and emplode the well
.If this does not work than a low yield hydrogen bomb should be used to close the well, BP profits be damned.
Sincerely,
Richard M Baum
below the well tower put drill bits thru the pipe . every time one goes in the flow will be slowed down till enough bits are in it will be stop the flow. i have also invented a bit that opens so it can over lap the others. a gig will be need to direct the bits where to go. everything is assembled on the surface. so no human error can occur or misfunction. you can make the bits very long to stabalize the pipe below.
if you can send a suction hose inside the pipe, then you should be able to insert a RUBBER INFLATEABLE PIPE PIG into the pipe at the end of the suction hose, insert far enough into pipe that you can use a large
air tank accumulater with very high P.S.I to instantly inflate the PIPE PIG to expand and try to stop or at least slow down the majority of this flow (then you can worry about oil extraction later)you may be able to stack two pigs together for a better result, it’s worth at least a try, because they obvisily are not trying anything but finding a way to keep oil production going. I hope BP, HALIBURTON, OPEC ROT IN HELL FOR THE ANTROCITIES THEY HAVE CAUSED.
We take a giant ocean liner taker. the cargo capacity can peak out at 550000 DWT. Fill it with sand , crushed gravel, crush granite. we then control sink it. This tanker is pre fit with guidance fins so when going down it can be steered by remote control. to the stern, port side, aft, start board. with the GPS guide assistance we lower it over top of the well head blowout. On the bottom on the flat bottom tanker is secured a type of a spear head. around 24 inches or bigger and 20 feet long. when the ship is controlled sunk guided over top of the well head this javelin type spear head will be pushed into the well head acting as a plug. with the weight of the cargo ship pushing down this will secure this type of a plug. even with the estimates of the release pressure around 100000 psi a top plug of this size will cap it. we have the technology to do this all. from remote control, lazer guidance, GPS guidance. At the same time the cargo hull when filled with the sand gravel can have layers of rubber membranes laid across every 10 feet in depth to act as giant sand bags with in the cargo hull. The 24 inch 20 foot long spear head has a hollow hole 4 inches that can guide the oil into the cargo hull that is packed with the sand gravel crush mixture rubber membranes. there it has to stop having no where to go. The controlled sunk ship is like a 550000 DWT top plug. Some of the details are introductory yet very workable. with the plug in place this can give us then the much needed time to drill a relief well with a secure shut off valve to secure surrounding area.
This sounds like it could work, but I wonder is BP listening? They should reply to each constructive idea. If only to encourage more suggestions.
Use the legs from one of the deep sea drill platforms under construction. Some of these are a thousand feet tall, weld them together, and place over the well head. They will fill with oil, and can be pumped out at the surface. The legs can be floated to the site, and flooded, thereby lowering them over the well. These are very large, so placement need not be exact. The weight should be sufficient for the cylinder to penetrate the sea floor to a depth that will seal the well. Each leg, as it is assembled, should be compartmentalized so they may be flooded slowly for a controlled drop over the well. A structure at the top would be needed to keep the whole unit stable, but a large buoyant ring should be enough
Hello,
This is Blaine Jennings with a simple solution to capture the escaping oil polluting my great state of Louisiana and the gulf coast.
1. Pull up the containment dome up from the ocean floor that was lowered in the first attempt to capture the oil.
2. Attach pipes to the containment dome.
3. Attach the other end of the pipes to fluid pumps.
4. Start to lower the containment dome back into the water.
5. While lowering the containment dome start to pump a fluid through the pipes that will not freeze. Thus keeping the containment dome free from freezing.
6. Lower containment dome over gushing oil and turn off the pumps that is pushing the fluid to stop the containment dome from freezing with ice crystals which happened on the first try.
7. Start sucking up the oil until the relief wells are drilled.
Can it really be that easy?
Your idea makes perfect sense to me. I wonder why BP didn’t try it? They really need to reply to suggestions, or people will assume the worst.
Has any thought been given to using giant sand bags to bury the oil spill site? These giant sand bags were used to plug the dykes after Katrena hit New Orleans.
If the piping in the seabead is relatively straight, in the vertical, construct a solid steel tappered insertion rod possibly 500-1000 feet in length. Start at 3-6 inches to the full diameter of the pipe at the top. The weight needs to be sufficient to overcome the outlet pressure of the well hole. Slowly lower the insertion tool into the pipe. With sufficient weight added to the insertion tool, it should allow the rod to gradually diminish the flow until a complete seal is accomplished.
1. Send pure oxygen down to the wellhead. Let it ignite the gases like a bunsen burner.
2. Use hydrolysis to generate oxygen at the well head electrode, and hydrogen at a distant electrode.
3. Push CATV strand wire with a 10 ft stainless steel stinger on the end into the wellhead, attach another strand wire with same about 30 feet back, and then another, and then another… . Twist the wire bundle to maximize the amount inserted into the pipe – then untwist partially. This will reduce the flow substantially.
4. Drop a much bigger pipe (cylinder) around the well head – about 20x- with self sealing threads at the top for a slightly smaller cylinder. Continue stacking until the bottom sinks “far enough” into the sea floor. Pour concrete around the base; then stack to the surface with slightly smaller cylinders.
5. This should be number 1, replace the chain of command making decisions. Civilians who have only pumped gas, me, should not be offering suggestions on day 60+ to professionals!
Freeze the oil at a location back in the pipeline by encasing the outer pipeline wall with a split sleeve that can be clamped over the pipeline and then continuously introduce liquid nitrogen in the space between the sleeve and pipeline which will solidly freeze the oil in the pipe and form a frozen plug. While this freeze plug is in place, then evacuate the discharge side of the pipe and back fill it with a cement plug back to a point near the temporary liquid nitrogen freeze plug.
Havent read any other suggestions, and I’m sure this has probably come up in some form or another (or in many various froms).
Whatever the circumference of the widest part of the wellhead, create a thick length of (concrete? steel?) tubing with, naturally, a slightly greater circumference, whose end is adapted to allow for the further attachment of similar lengths of such tubing (maybe like drainwater/sewage pipes, an open angled end allowing for easy connection). Slip the initial lenth of tubing completely over the wellhead, which would obviously extend the height at which the oil is initially escaping from, then add further peices of tubing, securing firmly to the piece already in place as you go. At some point you could either (1) add so many lengths that the pour out was reaching the surface to be collected by whatever means without the sea being disturbed, or (2) you could add a piece that was naturally capped itself (although obviously I’m unaware if the subsequent build-up of pressure from the gushing oil, inside the now capped whatever length of connected tubing, would compromise the strength of the nature of the attachments between the pieces of tubing at such ocean depths). With the well capped temporarily this way, then more definitive avenues could be employed to tackle it permanantly.
I HAVE THE SOLUTION TO FIX THIS! (simple)
Basic Materials
Giant Balloon (Withstand A LOT of pressure)
Compressor
Mile Long Hose (6″-14″ Dia)
How To:
Step 1.
Firmly attach balloon to hose.
Step 2.
Carefully maneuver hose and balloon into opening of broken pipe.
Step 3.
Attach other end of hose to compressor
step 4.
Inflate balloon until oil stops leaking
Step 5.
Weld new valve to broken pipe.
Step 6.
Deflate balloon and let oil flow freely into the new fixed pipe.
Step 7.
Save all the animals
Step 8.
Clean up ocean.
Step 9.
Give Aasif osmany Free gas for the remainder of my life.
Than you for your time please try this and let me know how it works.
Good Luck!
Aasif Osmany
Email me if you need assistance I am a highly trained technician.
why dont they use a vessel like a nuclear submarine to go down and plug the holes in the gulf? They can mount a type of plug onto the outside hull then position it into the hole. that way they can stay under water. How long can a US Navy nuclear submarine stay submerged? ?
i have heard that the subs can stay under water for up to 3 months at a time
is this true? if they can stay out at sea for as long as they need with the nuclear reactor engines but im wondering about the supplies excpecaly air
how long can a crew stay under water in one of theses subs? A nuclear submarine can stay underwater indefinitely, it produces it’s own air and fresh water. The only constraint on the time it can stay submerged is food for the crew. Once the food runs out it has to be re-supplied.
A normal patrol can be between 3 and 6 weeks but could be extended to 12 weeks if necessary and if they had enough food for the crew, probably much longer.
i dont think 100000 PSI will move a The Typhoon class submarine is a type of nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine deployed by the Soviet Navy in the 1980s. With a maximum displacement of about 26,000 tonnes surfaced (about 48,000 submerged). Typhoons are the largest class of submarine ever built.
they can stay submerged while plugging the hole long enough for a drill crew to cap the well hole properly.
When I was a kid I had a model submarine that would be displayed on a stand. The model had a stem protruding out from the model that would be fitted onto a hole in the the stand. Do something similar to that idea.
We have the technology
All My Relations Marsi Cho
My idea is something like a giant beer bong, with a concrete, or brass funnel? Place said funnel large side down over the hole anchored to the sea floor, to reduce the chances of it blowing off from built up pressure. Then the oil/gas combo can be brought to the surface yet confined within the funnel and line.
First Pray! Then send down a screw at high enough rotation to cause a vortex, into which oil can be pumped to the surface.
I suggest that BP buy back any recovered oil at a premium. This would help with exist and encourage new independent recovery efforts. There should also payments for Tar balls and rehabilitated animal efforts made to any and all organization that are willing to assist in these efforts, It should not be limited to BP controlled companies.
Take a large cannon barel and taper it at the end.start adding pipe to it as you lower it over the leak. when over it several feet drop it and jam it in the well. If that workes be ready for the oil that will come out. They made a bomb out of a cannon barrel to git to Sadom in his deep bunkers. It worked. It won’t cost much to try it. Thanks.
Other oil burnoff approach: Capture and burn off as much oil as possible at the closest point of surfacing. Use methods to containment and enhancinge the burnoff with any effective method feasible. 2nd is a more distant ring of fire (rundancy) around the 1st burn off location to eliminate oil escaping 1st area of burnoff. Like a large circular gas grill on the water surface . Those that extinguished the Iraq oil fires should have valuuable related experience. The devil is in the details, which is not provided here.. A million hand shovels on land will not do the job. Don’t le the oil get to the shores by concentrating stoppage techniques as near the source of leak as possible. Good luck .
It would seem that a tap and dye may fit this situation . I’m not an engineer,but have worked with tools most of my life. The screw in method would be strong and the cap could have a control valve to release whatever amount you consider to be safe. If something were to happen to the extraction line would it be possible to set some type of remote shut off? I believe anyone with a substantial amount of time and resources should become involved in this disaster; this eventually will effect the entire earths well being.
My suggestion is bring resistance against the flow with a high powered engine to force the oil back to it’s origin.
ONE: It is not possible to use the current damaged riser stub and bent drillstring inside riser,it is as I said damaged,bent and too short for any useage. It is however,possible to use the remaining flange facing[edges]on the two facing and bolted together flanges.The surfaces appear to be smooth and wide enough together to take a special type of seal. That seal can be found on a tool that was used to repair high pressure oil/gas pipelines and which has been used thousands of times in the past. The tool in question is a mark v hydrocouple manufactured by Hydrotech of Houston tex. In its current state the tool is too long , but if the tool was modified and just the lower sealing portion of the tool was used it should easily fit the flange surface edges. the great thing about the tool is the fact that is is hydraulically actuated from the surface and can be used to effect a seal up to 10ooo psi. The modified upper portion of the tool will already have a new welded flange and high pressure valve installed before it leaves the surface and will remain open until installation of tool is complete. The next question is how do we keep the tool in place .The answer is to manufacture between four and six hold down clamps which will be welded on the tool on the surface prior to its installation. these “clamps” are nothing more then a simple threaded bolt and square stock arrangement with a manufactured “foot”on each clamp. after the tool is installed the clamp is lowered below the end of the tool ,rotated. so its fitting over the lower flange facing and torqued either over or between the bolts themselves. after tightning the clamps there should be no danger of compression or expansion of tool. The tool is then hydraulically actuated from the surface and upon completion of this task,the top valve is closed and oil flow stopped. The great thing about this idea is the fact that with use of identical flanges , a mockup can be manufactured on the surface and the tool tested prior to its deployment on the well .There will be some modifacation to the tool itsself to allow it to rest on the upper flange bolts or between them as well as sealing surface lip modifacation but turn around time can be as little as three days{I believe] especially if the tool is in stock . If not than one additional day to manufacture the sealing portion , but it can be done quick quick quick if required. I am a retired former subsea engineer and pipeline repair expert and would be happy to answer any questions you may have. One further note,all my design and modifacations were with the use of a ROV and their limited abilities.
I think BP must be trying to salvage their well buy not doing enough to stop the flow of Oil. They should try to stop the flow first, even with lost of well. There must be thousands of barges all around the Gulf including up and down the Mississippi River. The President needs to take charge by mobilizing every barge possible loaded with old cars, tires, rock any heave debri to bury the well head. After lowering the largest bell, like the first attempt, cover the well head with bell and start dumping none stop. The Bacardi Rum commercial on TV where they created an Island by dumping rocks would be similar except with barges (reference to the commercial is for example only). With enough weight the Oil should stop. The Japanese and the country of Dubi have created Islands for their new International Airport and housing in the case of Dubi.
Mr. President: Hopefully a simple suggestion will work to slow or stop the oil spill. At least something to think about. #1: Make 2 half sleeves-1 with a hole & 1 without a hole. No.2: Attach the whole sleeve to oppisite side of hole & seal. No.3: Attach a slidding door above the sleeve that has the hole in it. Leave the slidding door open (because of preasure) to attach & seal. No.4: Then slide the door down over the hole & seal. Good luck & God Bless: Ed 586-598-1241
Do u think we’ll get some money if our ideas is use to fix this issue or bp just take the credit…?
Why not sink the oil?
oil is thicker than water, with exxon valdez that is basically what they did, the soap cuts the oil which seems to go away (essentially it breaks the viscosity of the oil and also aids in in getting through the miniscus of the water and “sink”)
it does seem to help lessen it, but have ya ever looked at the side of your tub after a bath.. thats what oil mixed with soap makes…
man that was a bad spill, i think if this time it is handeled like that it will not be good and i dont think it will “seem to go away” i think this time (once the pipe is capped) and the cleanup is commenced, we really do need to separate the water and oil, and more than likely seeing as time is going by fast before commencing on that stage air and massive fume buildups from shored, bakeing clumps of tar steam on the beaches…. lol ok ok it wont be that bad, if ya see any muck lets get it into something, lets all pick up a good share a day and get it in buckets and barrels. we will have oil parties!!
I have posted this suggestion three times now. Every time I come back to this site it is removed.
I have been in the drilling industry for 23 years and also have a degree in fluid power technology. The channeling and controlling the oil spill can be accomplished by using a larger diameter conduit from the BOP to the gulf surface. If the open discharge at the BOP is 18″ diameter (254 in2) then the riser tube should be approx 30″ diameter (706 in2). Oil will flow through the riser as long as there are surface recovery vessels pumping at the same rate as the oil is discharging from the well head. As long as fluid is in motion the oil will remain contained in the riser tube/pipe. It should also allow some sea water to enter the pipe at the well head. A weight ring, cable lanyards or connector will hold the riser in place. Separating the water from the oil can be accomplished at the surface in the recovery vessel. A large float ring or air bladders on the surface will hold the riser pipe in a semi-plumed position, lanyard fasten to recovery vessel. As long as the fluid is being pumped at the surface the oil will travel up the riser pipe due to the vacuum created. Fluid will take the path of least resistance. That is why the dome attempt didn’t work. Fluid will not flow up a smaller diameter pipe which will requires a high velocity fluid.
My suggestion is to use a system similar to the one used in Aerial Refueling. Mount on the broken pipe a kind of boom (like a funnel, hinged maybe for easier fit and mount). Once this is mounted the recovery pipe can click into the boom and recover all oil.
I hope this helps.
This will be a little contreversial, but how about taking each of the exceutives of the BP board and all of the other companies that where responsible for creating and maintaining each component of the well, and placing these people ever so gently one on top of the other, into the well to stop the leak… Perhaps future board members will think twice before cost cutting, on saftey measures. I mean please do remember that 11 people have lost their lives due to their overall negligence and thousands upon thousands have lost and continue to loose their enjoyment and livelyhood of the environment that BP has ruined. Let me know what you think……. I say stacks on to BP!
neglegence, oh no, from what i saw on the media there is no neglegence to this at all, totally the opposite i saw a report that is not saying they were at all neglegent at all, that is USALLY a good thing tho.
i have to research it a little more, but i think somme people made some very bad decisions that i equate to very immature and adolecent level behavior like kicking stones or punching walls, but its something a bit larger than a wall or a stone and a bit of a bigger child if what i hear is correct and that baby should be spanked or they will go spoiled.
Start with a 1″ rod 300 ft. long and weld (4) 1/2″x 12″long barbs on it every 12″ At 30 degrees to form a spider .They will go in easy but will be hard to get out, but with enough friction from thousands of barbs . Then slip the 1″rod into a very heavy duty 1″pipe 300 feet long Then welding them together with a long splice. Then weld the same spiders on it. Don’t weld the spiders in a vertical line. So as not score the drill casing Keep adding spiders and increasing the size of pipe , every 300 Feet. Until the spiders no longer fit. When you reach the inside diameter of the drill casing, the last section should be very tight fit
As you lowed the rod & pipe into the well casing add lead shot and concrete. When the pipe size is large enough drope lead ingots and concrete into it. You have to figure the lenght of pipes and weight of the lead to over come the oil pressure coming up.
your gunna slap your selves for not thinking of this, it is so simple.
chinese finger trap.. more pressure more it traps.
i will go fast with this i know your reading millions of stuff so i gotta catch your attention
p[ip cut in quarter
edges lines with sealer
hing 2 of these to half a ring
put “tipless” cones on other end of each quarter pipe so that the cones would be one over each when the 4 quarters come together and the cones outer diameter is equal to the inside diameter of this pipe
we avoid being hampered by the oil flo by bolting the half rings together on pipe the quarter pipes laying on the ocean floor hinged to half rings we just bolted to the pipe.
we now lift the quarters to come together as our cones welded to the pipe go near and over the flow of your oil, well you just go ahead and TRY to get your new extention back open cause if you got 75 tons of preasure i bet you dont even need to put sealent on the edges of those quarter pipes.
you can prethread this before you cut it to quarters but if you guys REALLY do want to get it handeled this is an obvious working plan here that as people read it they are gunna say, hey how come they havent thought of this primary and ancient method of handeling problems.
k just lost a whole lot of important info hate retyping but it is pretty important im gunna keep it short tho this time cause i already made it once.
i will not elaborate i will state my whys tho
do not pre cap, why is: when flow is stopped the chineese finger trap effect of the oil spouting throught the cones will simply fall apart so
1 the supports for each cone (that you dont want to just shoot out ot the pipe) on each of the 3 other pipes (i mention in my lost text that you didnt get to read so i mention them again) can have hooks that when the 4 quarter pipes come together snap into place to aid the bolts you put on to hold it together
ye i think you guys should think about this idea for sure, heh… cant see it really getting read tho you gotta be flooded with ideas
ps still bolt that pipe together dont just leave it snapped together like a toy, past what i got here the rest you guys should have down pat you just wanted something to give an extention to work with if i got it right
an idea how to contain the oil untell the leak can be fixed.
useing rubberized canvus to creat a funel reaching to the ocean floor to the surfice waiting the bottom and floting the top the top would be maybe 2 miles in dyiamitor bottom maybe hafe mile top would have baloon typ flot’s like childs swiming poll reaching say 4 storys high out of ocean ships could then pump the oil from with in
make a plug that fits into the pipe than can be tighten somewhat like a freeze plug in autos that are made of rubber you can make them to hold the pressure you can insert one down in the pipe and add anotherto seal it temporarely
for the oil that’s already in the ocean, have a commercial fishing vessel.. spread out the 100′s of miles of meshed netting that is lined with a porous fabric like silk or very fine mesh..( that allows the sea water to pass but not the oil) around a given perimeter from the center point of the leak or relative to the currents. The netting would extend from the surface , down to ocean floor ( or as close as possible. )This will force the oil to the surface, where the skimmers can skim, and minimize the amount of oil getting to shore. the other idea is to set i giant concrete or steel tank on the ocean floor…. funnel the oil to the tank and create another connection from the surface to the tank. Oh and the piping to the tank… put 20 pipes together going down.. tye them together. (cable) … if the tubing is getting clogged cause of the methane/ ice… well get bigger tubing.
Stick the pipe up the arse of a bp executive
Then syphon the shit coming out of his mouth
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